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Re: Star

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:52 pm
by skippy
That seat is realy professional. :thumb <216 <216 <201

Re: Star

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:57 pm
by beat
skippy wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:52 pm That seat is realy professional.
:lol: :lol: <201 <201 :ban :ban <913 <913 :laugh :laugh :laugh

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:51 pm
by beat
next Sunday , in Möggers / Austria, near Bregenz, - the only MX race with sidecar classe will be held.

hope the seat will held...

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Star

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
by beat
beat wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:51 pm hope the seat will held...
Hmmmmm <201 <201

the seat holds in place, -- but my neck boon didn't :
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out of order at the moment and for -- how much time now :?: :?:
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beat <022

Re: Star

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:42 pm
by Barry Creary
Oh no Beat did you crash?

Re: Star

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:25 pm
by minetymenace
Crikey beat, get well soon.

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:34 am
by skippy
Hope you get better. But sadly we don't bounce as well as we used to

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:13 am
by Jack Gifford
Wishing you a good recovery.

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:17 pm
by SteveS
Speedy recovery Beat

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:00 pm
by beat
yes Barry, we crashed on the steepest part of the track.

recovery will take at least 3 month they say..... <982 <982


<981

thanks for all the good wishes
:werd

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:14 pm
by Ian Hingley
Hey beat

I know you won't listen to the doctors or to Hannalore, but please rest up and take it easy.

Whilst your body heals I'm sure your brain will be super active. Keep that graph paper handy and your pencil sharp!

Best wishes

Ian (and Mandy)

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:24 pm
by malcward
Take it easy Beat
Get well soon
All the best
Malc

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:18 pm
by Barry Creary
All the best for a speedy recovery Beat hope you’re not in to much pain <013 <013 <128 <128 <128

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:00 pm
by Canberra
Hi Beat,
Lynn and I wish you all the best. It'll take time to get strength back so don't over do things without a brace for a while - take it slowly.
John

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:10 pm
by nopdog
Sorry to hear that Beat.
And happy it wasn't worse.
Take care.
Simon

Re: Star

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:27 pm
by beat
Thank you gents for all the wishes.
as the pain, - I haven't been eating so many pills against something in my all lifetime as I do it now..... :(

well, some sweets coming along in form of pictures as to see:

at Möggers race course 13. 09. 2020 , - when everything was still ok.
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cheers beat <1003

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:44 pm
by beat
Well, as recovery is going slowly - but it gos, -- I need to do something....
that front fork / wheel is a bit off the line :oops:
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and some cracks in the construction...
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ugly deformed the thing....
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so I cut out all what is still usable ....
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<982

Re: Star

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:41 pm
by twinshocker
Beat,

i found this thread at the moment, and i am very impressed to say the least !
Believe it or not i live 15 Kilometers from Möggers, i am there every time except this year as i was in hospital myself.
It would have been great to see you there &lt;069

Sorry to hear that you crashed, this track is really tough especielly for a vintage sidecar.

3 Years ago we had the sidecar World Championship there, and there was also a Demo with old bikes, some very nice Hedlunds (800cc singles and V-Twins ) . Its a shame that your Goldie was not finished back then.
May be you were there as a spectator ?

Get well soon ! :thumb

Oli

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:27 pm
by beat
hi Oli,

thanks for the reply, - yes, Möggers is a special track, - a real clay - mud as I never have seen this.
and this clay was actually the reason for breacking my neck!
shame :???:

I was away for more than 45 years from any racing activity, as a rider as well as a spectator.
this year in Möggers it was a race for the Swiss champion ship, and because Corona, - spectators have not been wellcome.

so- lucky for us, - nearly no-one could see our ugly crush!

lucky, I getting better now, and I do work on the new fork for old Goldie...
yokes and bearings still ok
yokes and bearings still ok
holding zhings in place....
holding zhings in place....
point-welding some first parts
point-welding some first parts
do the big welding...
do the big welding...
<982

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:43 pm
by twinshocker
Another question Beat.

Is there a reason that the steering head of your frame is not round ?

Re: Star

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:14 pm
by beat
yes Oli, there is.

as you see, the steering is something " upside down " ore " inside out ".
means - I have located the bearings NOT in the Head, no, they are in the yokes.
the reasons are: more lightweight AND easier to produce.
and as a result, the head can be square for easier production and less work to forming the other frame tubes on to the head.

so, reasons enough for me to go this way, and it is working good so far.

beat :roll:

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:18 pm
by twinshocker
Ahhhh

I see ! :thumb

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:06 pm
by beat
yes, - one problem by building a fraim is always the shape of the seats of the bearings in the headstock.
by welding the fraimtubes to the stock, the seats getting oval and deformed.

to avoid this, I do this " inside out " system.
by having the bearings in the yokes, I can finally welding the yokes and after this, I can take the all yoke on to a smal lathe and finally machine the bearing place.

as the square form of the stock, - it is chosen for this fraim only because 5 fraimtubes are coming to the stock. so it is really easier to do.

the next fraim ( in planing - means in my head ) will have two fraimtubes only coming to the stock, - so headstock will be round as well.
Project LOBE 2 20/ 21 in Topic Project bikes

greetings

beat <212

Re: Star

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:19 pm
by beat
getting closer....
getting closer....
and finished the new fork.
and finished the new fork.
optimicing a other corner....
optimicing a other corner....
had to weld this place there times within this two years using this bike.
A tribute to the Stainless Steel I say, - not sure, but I guess I do it right this time....

beat <212

Re: Star

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:39 am
by Mark Cook
Beat, just read about your flying lesson. Hope your healing well. I'm surprised Hanilor will allow you back on a bike.

Re: Star

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:21 pm
by beat
hi mark

Hannelore is NOT enjoyed by the Idea of getting back on the race bike!

myself, I say as it depends on the gymnastic and fitness I can do without feeling pain.
if this comes close to that it was before, - yes, I guess I will race again .

( at least the doctor says, as my neck will never break again at the same place )

<212 beat

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:01 pm
by twinshocker
Always keep in mind:

You don´t stop racing because you get old,
you get old because you stop racing !!

:mrgreen: :thumb

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:02 pm
by beat
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:mrgreen:

BTW,
dismantling the all thing for some modifications and small repairs
dismantling the all thing for some modifications and small repairs
weight of this fraim is : 18.9 Kg
weight of this fraim is : 18.9 Kg
have a crack in the fraim/ oil tank
have a crack in the fraim/ oil tank
it wasn't good enough welded anyway, and as a tribute to the stainless steel, this oil tank needs a mod.
one more place was NOT perfect  done...
one more place was NOT perfect done...
<216

Re: Star

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:55 pm
by beat
as the sst is sensitive about vibrations, the oil tank,- means this thick tube, - tendencing to crack.
the outer diameter is 63 mm and wall thickness is 1.5 mm only. this last 30cm of the tank is hanging free by the lower end, and creates the problem at the weldings.

so I cut it off and connecting it together with a pice of silicone hose.

guess like this I will get shot of the problem.
&quot; hanging &quot; oil tank in rubber now
" hanging " oil tank in rubber now
I could not find any other serious cracks at the fraim ( and there are many weldings on it ), I am happy so far with the design and would do it in the same manner again.

so, - start screwing it together once more:
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beat <982

Re: Star

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:34 pm
by beat
bringing it together pice by pice
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not far away from get it running again

beat <216

Re: Star

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:03 am
by Momus
I think the expression labor of love applies here.

Good job.

Re: Star

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:59 pm
by skippy
It's on it's wheels so please keep it that way. Good luck. <216 <216

Re: Star

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:54 am
by minetymenace
Hi beat, your oil tank has been worrying me (amongst other things). Have you still got only one jubilee clip o the hose, as I see the vibration and gravity shaking the bottom half off. How about a strap or something to take the weight rather than having it hanging on the hose?.....Just thinking....

How's the neck?

Re: Star

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:08 pm
by beat
skippy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:59 pm It's on it's wheels so please keep it that way.
:lol: :lol:
yes skippy, on the wheels and it is running again ! ( tested today :!: )

AND - me and my son Lorenz decidet to keep it on the wheels from now on and for ever !
means: no more crashes we say :!: we have promised this to our wives, -trouely :thumb

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minetymenace wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:54 am only one jubilee clip o the hose,

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
good spotted minety, - but now are two clips there, as I do not own two with the size for 70 mm, I have hooked two shorter ones together to reach the recommended size at the moment. ( I feel shame to make a picture of such a mess on my bike :oops: :oops: )
BTW, this blue hose isn't the right thing anyway, - it is not truly oil resistent.
I do need the quality of Fluor silicone hose. but this stuff I can get here only by the length of 1 Meter in minimum, and it costs me 360.00 SFr. , makes around 380 Dollars US. a bit much as I do need just a length of 6 cm by now.
so time has to show me a cheaper solution, then I will replace it including the messy clip :oops: :oops:
minetymenace wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:54 am How's the neck?
Neck is feeling much better, some single days I have with no pain already !!
in one week I have to show it to the great Doc, - will keep you informed .........

beat <212 <212

Re: Star

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:49 pm
by Ian Hingley
beat wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:08 pm BTW, this blue hose isn't the right thing anyway
I thought blue hoses were always the right colour in your world, beat!

Ian IHOSMILE

Re: Star

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:09 am
by Momus
Re the silicon hose holding the tank.

I've used that stuff in similar applications for years now with no problems.

Initially I was nervous and imagined rapid deterioration, internal delamination, seepage
etc, but nothing after exposure to different hydrocarbons at up to 100C.

I get the impression that the hose manufacturers and chemical industry are super
cautious and in our sort of use a catastrophic failure is unlikely.

That said another alternative would be a Wiggins type quick release set up.
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Re: Star

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:01 pm
by beat
yes Ian, the color fits my demand perfectly :ban

and as momus says,- it calms me down and I will fallow this way of testing it, - and checking it after one ore two hour running with hot oil inside.

Wiggins seames to be nice but expensive and not sure it is needed so perfectly.

BTW, the blue silicone hose is from BOOST Products, a hose commonly used on turbo charger air side.

beat :smile:

Re: Star

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:32 pm
by beat
old Goldie get a other type of steering damper.
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I am tied of the VW type as I bought two of them and both are leaking oil after a short use.
now try a Hyperpro from Holland .... - nice modern stuff ! ( and adjustable )

beat