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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Chris Pellett » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:24 pm

To give everyone a fighting chance I've put the headlamp interior support bracket on a five day auction
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/281945040468?
at half the price of the other one listed.
If that's still too much I'll be posting the dimensions here , so get ready with the metal bender

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:02 pm

Had a bit of bother getting the chain tension correct, I think the 19 tooth sprocket doesn't help as it puts the sprocket centre further away from the swinging arm pivot. Mark's swinging arm cam & spindle kit makes life much easier but the one hole I wanted to use had a slight clash with the oposite frame pin but nothing a file didn't fix!
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But the chain needed a good bit of slack, when I put my weight on the bike, the chain fairly tightened & the only tension that didn't tighten too much left the chain hitting the guide. This has obviously been a problem for the previous owner judging from the wear & made worse with the big gearbox sprocket.
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I machined-up a nylon block for the chain to hit on the over-run, problem solved!
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Next job was to fit the Tri-spark ignition system. I am amazed at how slim the unit is & how easy it is to set-up but at £250, it should be good!
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The bike should be finished in a week or two, a total time of 16 months start to finish.

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby beat » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:49 pm

IMO, best is to made the all chain guide out of a plastic block because it dos sideways a good job as well

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:22 pm

Nice chain guide Beat, mine is not showing any side wear but I will keep an eye on it.

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby HPbyStan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:09 am

The BSA / CCM swingarm pivot setup is the Castrol R40 of frame design. Just stupid. About all you can hope for with the gear box shaft that far from the swing arm pivot is to use something like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-BULTACO-PU ... SI&vxp=mtr

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:06 am

Stan, you take me back! I had one of these on my Bultaco Sherpa 38 years ago. You are right, it would be the ideal solution. I'll see how my present set-up goes, but I will start looking into fitting one or something similar. After a couple of years of trials & a lot of Scottish mud, it was starting to show some wear, so they do last & do a good job.
Thanks for the idea & the trip down memory lane!

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby beat » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:29 pm

yes, a good chain guide and a X ring chain is making the all rear drive much more quiet.

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:24 pm

Just received the new rocker feed pipe from Mark & Anita. The first one I got a while ago had compression fittings at the rockers & one nut was just fouling the casting. I spoke to Mark about this (it wasn't a problem, I was going to grind a little alloy off the contact area) and he told me to send it back to him as he was trying out crimped fittings.
Now fitted, perfect & looks great, all lengths & angles spot-on! Problem solved, not that there really was one.
Yet another quality product from CCM-Britain!

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby beat » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:27 pm

:thumb :thumb :thumb

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headlamp interior support bracket dims

Postby Chris Pellett » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:53 pm

As promised headlamp interior support bracket dimensions:
Overall 1" x 3/16" x 9-3/4"
For 130°it follows a 2-13/16" (internal) radius (3" external) with 1-1/4" straight ends.
Fixing holes are 7/16" Ø centreline approx. 9/16" in from either end (which are typically radiused)

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:28 pm

New stainless steel sump guard now fabricated & fitted.
Just waiting for a chain to arrive & then it's MOT time, get it registered, get a registration number, the plate fitted & it's job done!
16 months start to finish.
I'll put on a load of photo's once the chain is fitted.

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby johnq » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:34 pm

Make some more.(with lugs on ) a winner in stainless with or without the hole
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:00 pm

IT'S FINISHED!

All I need to do now is get it MOT'd & send off the paperwork to get a registration number.

Once again, many thanks to everyone who has helped me over the last 17 months.

Cheers,

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Barry Creary » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:15 pm

Very nice looking bike Pete B50icon you should be very proud of your work :thumb now the fun begins <216

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby beat » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:47 pm

:thumb :thumb :thumb
guess this looks better than a new one :ok :ok
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Andy Chaos » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:55 pm

Pete that is stunning , well done :thumb

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby AJ CCM » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:47 pm

Well done Pete :thumb &lt;069

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Ian Hingley » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:28 pm

It's never finished!

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby minetymenace » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:43 pm

That is one shiny bike, in the picture with the clocks, there are at least 10 reflections of you in the chrome in that picture alone!
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby packw » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:19 am

Oooooooooooo that's nice. Great job.
Or being from geordieland; eeeeeeeeeeeeeee that's nice.
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby mlb50 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:39 am

Sitting in a bar in China, that is one sweet reminder to get home to polish mine.
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby David S » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:23 pm

You did a very nice resto job on your B50SS!

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:55 am

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the kind comments, most appreciated.
As for the front brake cable, I cut about a 1/2" of rubber fuel hose and threaded a tie wrap round the front mudguard stay, after sticking a bit of protective tape round the stay, through the pipe & round the cable. I did the same just under the bottom fork yoke. This created two 1/2" stand offs that keeps the cable off the guard regardless of fork compression.

When I get the chance, I'll post some photos.

Cheers,

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby minetymenace » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:50 pm

Several comments were made about the front brake cable routing, Chris P then suggested that bit of the discussion was split.....it can be found here.
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:06 pm

Hi Guys,

I have just sold my B50!
The buyer, who asked me to introduce him to you all, is Paul Miles. Paul has a Goldie among many other bikes and writes for Classic Bike Guide & Real Classic Magazine. I'm sure you will all hear from him soon & I'm certain he will be a good contributer to the forum.

Why did I sell? It was all my Wife's fault!
Last Autumn I bought a BMW R65LS, which I realy enjoyed riding but my Wife wouldn't go on it, "nasty dangerous things!"
A few months later, I sold my microlight, this gave me a lump of cash that was burning a hole in my pocket. I then spotted a 1996 BMW R100R, in my opinion, the most beautiful air-cooled model BMW ever made, I had to buy it. Surprisingly, my Wife liked the look of it and I managed to persuade her to have a shot on the back after borrowing a helmet & jacket. In truth, I didn't expect to get to the end of the road without her walking home, but she loved it, to my utter amazement. It then cost me a fortune for her kit, its way better than mine! She is now planning touring holidays.
The B50 will never be a long distance two-up tourer (I know many of you will disagree with that!) So with the sale of it plus the sale of the R65 which sold a couple of weeks ago, I am now on the lookout for a more modern BMW tourer with ABS & all the other toys. The R100R now taking the place of the B50 as the "Sunday" bike.
It is a joy for me that Dorothy now shares my hobby as I could never get her up in the microlight.

I can only thank you all so much for the help I got with my B50, I loved the project and hope Paul has many happy miles on my machine.

Cheers,
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby koncretekid » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:29 pm

petef wrote:Hi Guys,

I have just sold my B50!

R100R now taking the place of the B50 as the "Sunday" bike.

Cheers,
Pete


Yeah, I guess I can't blame you for selling it. It was, like, too shiny, too new looking, too stock....... If I had a new B50, I'd just strip off all the shiny bits, turn signals, rear grab bar, beat up the tank and side covers, build the motor, I mean, really build the motor, add some outrageous exhaust system, and ride the crap out of it on some back roads, maybe the Salt Flats. I mean, who'd want a new bike when you can have an old one???? Now what you need to do is go out and find yourself an old beat up B50 and ................................!

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Ian Hingley » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:01 pm

Many of us are familiar with Paul Miles through his articles in Real Classic and his many postings on the RealClassic facebook page. Certainly an avid collector with seemingly an ever-changing range of exotic classics to choose from in his garage.

Hope he joins the forum

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby petef » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:09 am

Hi Ian,

Paul has applied to join after I told him how wonderful you all are!

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Classicrider » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:50 pm

And here I am!
Very excited to be getting this motorcycle and looking forwRd to sharing my exploits with you all. Expect some really stoopid questions, sorry.
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby beat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:34 pm

petef wrote: I told him how wonderful you all are!


Oh yeas :!: :!: :!:

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby koncretekid » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:59 pm

Welcome, Classsicrider. And just to let you know, I have four BSA B50's and a couple of them are still shiny and one even has the grab rail and turn signals! (The other two are race bikes.) But I do love starting projects from beaters.
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby minetymenace » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:59 pm

<135 to the forum Classicrider....please update your profile and let everyone know roughly where you are....

good to have you on board :)
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Classicrider » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:27 pm

Thank you and I just have done so. Moved to the Shaftesbury area about a month ago, from West London. Finally got room to house all ( ok, most, well, some :roll: ) of the bikes. Loving it here, lots of quiet, twisty roads, hence the desire to own a punchy, softly bounced 500 single. Kettle always on etc.
Tried to put in my FB and Twitter, but it wasn't having it.
For reference, I'm on FB as Paul ******* and Twitter : @classicrider
I talk endless twaddle, so I'd avoid both if I were you.....

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Postby minetymenace » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:40 pm

Not that I do Facebook or Twitter but when I put you manes in I got the error:
The field “Facebook” has invalid characters, only alphanumeric or . characters are allowed.
The field “Twitter” has invalid characters, only alphanumeric or _ characters are allowed.


So I have taken a guess...Twitter works, Facebook doesn't....

Probably best remove your real name from your posts as it would be fairly for a nefarious oik to covet a B50 in a newly purchased house in your area!!!
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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Classicrider » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:19 am

Ahh, yes indeed, good plan.
Of course, stripey shirted scrotes with bags marked 'swag ' would need to get past the monitored alarms and dogs and, of course, I hold a firearms certificate; not that I would ever..... :razz:


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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Ian Hingley » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:36 pm

Having seen pics of the inside of Paul's garage on the RealClassic Facebook page, I'm not sure a humble B50 would be the oik's first choice!

And as for using real names...

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Classicrider » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:03 pm

I doubt there are many the aforementioned oik could even start, Ian!
Should be here soon, very excited now

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Barry Creary » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:15 pm

Hey Ian tried realclassic on Facebook and can't find this :roll:

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Re: My B50SS project

Postby Barry Creary » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:19 pm

Found it Ian :thumb

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Re: My B50SS project

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If someone would enlighten me about realclassic's facebook name, I'll have a go at sorting it... :grin:
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