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The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby minetymenace » Thu May 12, 2016 9:23 pm

Jangos is going to need some help, advice and and lots of support as he launches into an armature rebuild of his B50SS.

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Fri May 13, 2016 10:02 am

This is what I have to work with, my 1971 B50SS, which, according to Rickards datrabase, was manufactured in November 1971 & shipped to Baltimore USA in April 1972.
It found its way back to the land of its birth sometime in 1991.
I bought it last year & I was told it had been kept, hardly used, in a heated garage for the past eleven years
Where are all these mythical "heated" garages you hear about? I've never seen one in all my 69 years
Obviously bullsh*t but I bought it anyway as it started 1st kick & sounded ok (bloke probably had a can of easy start up his jumper)
Over the past few months a few niggles have started, the hi-violet paintwork is looking a little crazed on the tank, the clutch refused to free itself one day so I thought time to bite the bullet, strip it down & put right what is wrong, replace what is knackered or just worn out
So here we go
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Mon May 16, 2016 7:21 pm

Looks like at some time it must have failed an MOT on indicators & the then owner rectified the problem by simply sawing them off, Drastic but effective
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I removed the tank & pulled this lot down from where they had been stuffed up behind the headstock gussets. My first thoughts were unprintable, looks like a load of redundant wires not connected to anything.
On deeper thought they are probably to do with the indicators. I'll look at them later
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I think the rear sprocket will need replacing. Its looking a little worn so its probably a safe bet that the engine sprocket is worn as well
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I was going to get the springs re-chromed on the rear shocks but it looks like the rods are pitted so a new set will be in order
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Roger » Mon May 16, 2016 7:41 pm

The wiring harness on my B50 was shot, so a friend refurbished it. IMO top notch wiring a must to minimize the chances of any future electrical issues.
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby packw » Mon May 16, 2016 9:22 pm

Hi Jango,
Unless you are looking for originality at all costs (despite that meaning you must retain some atrocious BSA features) I'd junk the completely superfluous aluminium box of tricks under the tank. All it does is add to the number of connections (aways a source of potential trouble, especially multiple bullet connectors), prevents access to the exhaust tappet adjuster, and serves no useful purpose other than to house electrical components that can be usefully located elsewhere.

There are a number of submissions on this forum that provide the required detail for removing the thing thus simplifying and improving the reliability of the wiring.

Your bike looks very good and will look even better if the box under the tank ends up in the bin!

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby minetymenace » Mon May 16, 2016 10:19 pm

Keep the box, good for warming your tiddy oggy.
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Tue May 17, 2016 6:11 am

Tiddy Oggy? you're not a Janner are you Minety?

I've just got back from the place where the Oggies grows on trees

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Barry Creary » Tue May 17, 2016 9:24 am

I maybe a ex convict and out of touch but wtfa Tiddy Oggy :shock:

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Tue May 17, 2016 11:53 am

An "oggy" is a pasty (cornish pasties have the pastry crimped along the edge & devon pasties have the pastry crimped over the top)
a tiddy oggy is a devon pasty (tiddy meaning potato) & a Janner is someone who comes from Devon
& pasties are purported to grow on trees in Devon

This has absolutely nothing to do with a B50 but provides some light relief

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Ian Hingley » Tue May 17, 2016 12:48 pm

Sometimes I find it embarrassing to admit I live in the West Country like this lot!

Might be time to head back North! <216

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Barry Creary » Tue May 17, 2016 8:54 pm

Ohhhhh thank you Jango now I'm off to the pie shop to get a Oggy with a Tiddy chaser :laugh :laugh >44 on my BSA <216 now it has something to do with a B50 :uhu :uhu

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Tue May 17, 2016 9:08 pm

Back to reality,
I have been trying to find a company that will re-chrome my exhaust pipe but in the original black chrome.
I have found one or two that do black chrome but they absolutely will not touch anything that has had exhaust gases through it, no matter how clean you may think the pipe is they say it will contaminate their tanks & they cannot afford to do this as their main customers are from the aerospace sector where absolute quality is paramount.
I may have to get it done in bright chrome, something I really did not want to do
Any ideas anyone?

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby RichieP » Tue May 17, 2016 9:20 pm

What about this sort of stuff?

http://www.camcoat.com/main/coatings3.html

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby HPbyStan » Tue May 17, 2016 10:35 pm

and here I thought pasties went on breasts,,,,

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby skippy » Wed May 18, 2016 12:06 am

Jango wrote: (cornish pasties have the pastry crimped along the edge & devon pasties have the pastry crimped over the top)

Down under they get it around the other way and they won't listen to me when I tell them they are WRONG.
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Wed May 18, 2016 10:39 am

Thanks for that RichieP
ceramic coating would appear to be the way to go & I can have the silencer done at the same time to match

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Wed May 18, 2016 2:49 pm

I've checked out the ceramic coating option & looks like its the way to go.
They will clean up the exhaust pipe & silencer, coat them both with ceramic & all for the reasonable sum of £99
about the same as chrome plating & hopefully more durable

My pipe & silencer are getting packed up to go to the ceramic coaters who, they say, will turn it round in a couple of days

Now for the frame to the powder coaters

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Sun May 22, 2016 7:08 am

Is a B25SS wiring harness the same as a B50SS harness?
The reason I ask is that I seem to have the wiring & warning light in the headlamp for an oil pressure warning light (white & brown wire)
There is obviously no oil pressure switch fitted on my B50
My harness is a bit of a mess & finding a new B50 harness is impossible yet a B25 harness seems readily available from many suppliers
WTF?

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Sun May 22, 2016 6:44 pm

I thought this worthy of a mention as its a bit of a mystery, unless somebody out there has seen it before.
The stem on my exhaust valve is bent, this usually occurs when the valve hits the piston for some reason, however mine is bent on the tappet side!!
How could this have happened?
The bike has been running ok since I got it, with no cause to go anywhere near the head, it must have happened previous to my ownership. See picture below
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Sun May 22, 2016 7:29 pm

It seems I need a re-bore
The chap doing it says the piston is good & he can just fit oversize rings after he has re-bored the barrel
I asked him to fit a new piston
So I have a piston & rings if anyone wants them & can make use of them, just pm me & I'll send them off free of charge
The marks on the crown are "71 - 2745 & below that "ID17"

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Tue May 24, 2016 7:58 am

After RichieP's advice re: ceramic coating the exhaust pipe instead of black chrome, I contacted the ceramic coaters & discovered that they do colours.
Now my bikes original colour is Hi-violet & it is written down on the V5 as purple & the ceramic coaters offer a purple option which, I must admit, tempted me.
I don't really like the hi-violet & fully intended to finish the bike in an alternate colour, however I like the ceramic purple & decided to go with it as its a good shade of purple (think cadburys milk chocolate purple)
Today I got my exhaust & silencer back & it will in all probability upset the purists, but, my bike is going to be PURPLE
For starters here is the exhaust & silencer (BSA purists look away now)

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Barry Creary » Tue May 24, 2016 9:43 am

Like :grin: :cool:

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Postby Malcolms Lad » Tue May 24, 2016 9:51 am

Loud and different just what i like!!!
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby minetymenace » Tue May 24, 2016 11:13 am

FIH that's outrageous :shock: I wonder what Super Standard Stan will think?

How much did that cost?
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Tue May 24, 2016 12:47 pm

£99 for the two from Performance 1 coatings, Didcot
The colours are not as high a temperature rating as black, white or silver so the bend on the pipe may discolour slightly, but what the hell I can always go back to black (there's a song in that somewhere)

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby lathejack » Wed May 25, 2016 8:06 pm

Didn't one of BSA's old add campaigns state "Be bold, buy BSA" ? You and your BSA are certainly going to be that.

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Postby HPbyStan » Thu May 26, 2016 12:11 am

Be interesting to see how that pipe fits in with whatever the rest of the colours turn out to be.

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby koncretekid » Thu May 26, 2016 3:56 am

If you want the rest of the bike to match, that color looks like Dodge Challenger Plum Crazy.
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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Thu May 26, 2016 7:45 am

Yep, that looks just the colour.
I'm off to the painters today so I'll tell him to look that up.
I'm thinking of breaking up the single purple colour with a bit of white to provide contrast
Too much purple may be TOO much I'm thinking

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Keith » Thu May 26, 2016 8:32 am

Jango wrote:Yep, that looks just the colour.
I'm off to the painters today so I'll tell him to look that up.
I'm thinking of breaking up the single purple colour with a bit of white to provide contrast
Too much purple may be TOO much I'm thinking

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I'd try a bit of gold, I think it looks great with purple.

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby ghislain » Thu May 26, 2016 8:33 am

Back to the harness...yes 25 and 50 share the same harness , that's why the wires for oil pressure are fitted on 50 '..
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Postby Jango » Fri May 27, 2016 2:44 pm

Picked the frame up from the powder coaters today
Now the build begins

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Sun May 29, 2016 7:24 am

I got some of the bits & pieces back from the custom painters yesterday and I'm quite pleased with the shade of purple that he's come up with (very similar to that plum colour)
I've had the air scoop & vent picked out in white on the front brake plate, thought it would be different to the normal polishing route

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Postby Jango » Sun May 29, 2016 10:21 am

Apologise for the poor quality of the last photo, this ones a lot better

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Sun May 29, 2016 10:27 am

Here is the oil filter system I have decided to go with, I know it is a bit obtrusive, but it is neat & tidy & fires clean oil straight to the bearings.
Also the filter is very accessible & with clear pipes you have the peace of mind of watching the oil circulate
I have also had the alloy plate on the filter milled down at the bottom to 4.5mm & this now takes the place of the thick spacer on that side of the frame

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Mon May 30, 2016 9:13 am

I've just got one of these bike lifts & it is the absolute dogs danglies if you don't have much space
Simple to operate (see the battery drill on the post)
It doesn't look as though it should be stable but it absolutely is, & it is a simple one man operation

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Jango » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:39 pm

The PURPLE one is done
The last photo is the people that did the paint job. Sums it up nicely!!

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby Barry Creary » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:35 pm

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby David S » Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:17 pm

It sure is purple!!! Nice job!

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Re: The Jangos Saga, 1971 B50SS

Postby minetymenace » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:01 pm

Love the mud flap, I think that should be purple too :lol:
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