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B50 registry

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:27 pm
by b50root
Im working on a update on the owners database ( B50 registry ) . http://b50.org/osod.htm

Those posts that are wrong or not complete will be deleted.

If you want to change anything mail me now.

A little surprice will come when I´m done with it <200 .

If you want to join the registry, now it´s the time.

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:39 pm
by Ian Hingley
No room for we humble pre-oif riders then.

Sigh!

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:10 pm
by a-son
I caused you some more job. I managed to forget to fill in the frame number. :roll: It is a B50T with matching numbers.

Christer Andersson

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:14 pm
by b50root
a-son wrote:I caused you some more job. I managed to forget to fill in the frame number. :roll: It is a B50T with matching numbers.

Christer Andersson

Done :ban

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:16 pm
by b50root
Ian Hingley wrote:No room for we humble pre-oif riders then.

Sigh!



MMMMM Maybe later. >44

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:17 pm
by a-son
Pretty quick! :thumb

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:07 am
by b50root
a-son wrote:Pretty quick! :thumb



HA HA 4 minutes :shock:

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:55 am
by steve m
great to see the registry up and running again.
really good that people are understanding just what an excellent resource it is.
example: owned a B50 30 years ago, rueing the day i sold it ever since. wow, there's a b50 web site. it's got a registry, i'll check that out. wow, that's the bike i used to own. wow, how the 'ek did it get there :!: :shock: :shock: :lol: . not mine, you understand. i could never sell a B50. ;-)

steve

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:10 pm
by Anders Palm
Hi Richard.
I have sold one of my B50 T,B50T GE 14219 ,but I have a B25 T ,NEO 1400B25T,matching numbers,that I not have been able to put in the register,can you help me with that ?
Best regards Anders Palm.

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:18 pm
by b50root
2 More day until we reveal the new owners database. <208

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:44 pm
by b50root
The new owners database is open. http://b50.org/osod.htm

This is a still ongoing work. Hope you Enjoy this.

Thanks to all my friends who made this possible.

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:03 pm
by Richard Hunt
Hi Rickard

Nice one :thumb

I hope everyone appreciates all the effort and time you put in on this forum - I certainally do

Rich

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:02 pm
by 2manyrides
Thanks!

the registry looks good.
My main machine has the most info out of my lot. All 6 of mine are grouped together.
I take it this was very time consuming and indeed there must be some grey areas.
Or lack of data on some bikes.

One thought;
How can folks use that data base to search, compare, cross reference their bikes.
Or even quickly find a specific machine?


:ban
2many

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:17 pm
by b50root
2manyrides wrote:there must be some grey areas.
Or lack of data on some bikes.

Yes my own bike with number HE1235, the despatch paper says:

it´s a KG code and delivered to BSA Baltimore

2manyrides wrote:One thought;
How can folks use that data base to search, compare, cross reference their bikes.
Or even quickly find a specific machine?


If you know the number:

Code: Select all

ctrl f
on the page
What do you want to compare?? I can make some other pages where you sort them in an other way.

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:44 pm
by 2manyrides
Rickard...
What do I want to compare?
....er...I dont know!

Kind of shows my computer literacy, or lack of.
Fill me in...B50 registry for dummies.

Where can I enter a vin number at and come up with a particular bike.
Compare vin numbers VS date of production, destinations and the like I guess.

I figure I'm missing something...
I click on the registry, the page comes up, I have to scroll down while carefuly watching the data to find a particular bike.
Appears to be one long page.
I must be missing something.

2many

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:04 am
by a-son
Nice work Rickard!
Now I know the exact day my bike was built, and who ordered it. I doubt I could get that info anywhere else.

Thanks!

2many, you are thinking of a searchable database, this is more like a page with all data at once. You can use the search function in your browser, like Rickard said often ctrl-F, and enter either frame or engine number. You could also search for a specific year. Remember, this is only information about bikes entered by their owners to the database. Me, I searched for Fleron, a Swedish agency for BSA at the time.

Christer

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:15 am
by Ian Hingley
Hi 2MR

You're right, it is all on one page. But as Rickard says this makes text searches very simple. Just hit Ctrl-F (control key and f key at same time, type in your search string and hit enter. It will find the text. Hit enter again and it will go to the next occurrence and so on. So if you want to find all the 'KG' bikes, it will find them one after another. If you know say an engine number, enter it or part of it. Typing AH3108 end Enter, will take you straight to a certain Swiss gent's bike.

If you want to more specific searches such as list all 1971 bikes, now in the UK but originally shipped to the States, that's a bit more complicated!

(As an aside, Ctrl-F is standard Windows functionality and so will work on all your software packages, browser, word processor, spreadsheet, email, financials, etc. I find it much quicker than moving my mouse up to the Edit menu and clicking on Search)

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:33 am
by 2manyrides
Ian and Christer thanks!
That explains a lot.
Self taught, never touched a key till bout 10 years ago.
Something new everyday.
<216
Rode today on the MX and this is the first day to wear my warmest set of gloves. (Ahhhh!) <206
The day before, my fingers got numb.

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:48 pm
by b50root
We need some addresses to some BSA dealers. Maybe someone who could help??

Harwoods – Surrey Done
Comerfords – London Done
Clifford – Nottingham
Two, Three, Four Motorcycles – Berkshire
David Paul Motorcycles Done
P Mitchell – Australia
P. Reed – Harrogate
A. Wheeler Done


Please help so we can complete those registry we have <209

Rickard

Re: B50 registry - Comerfords

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:56 pm
by SteveS
Hi

Found Comerfords in the back of the B25 OIF Parts Book:

Comerfords Ltd
Portsmouth Road
Thames Ditton
Surrey
KT7 O_ _ - sorry unable to find the rest of the post code

Regards Steve

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:12 pm
by b50root
Thanks Steve. 7 more to go. :ok


Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:56 am
by Canberra
I'll let you add a bit more Rickard to mine - I looked at my receipt for when I purchased my B50SS-JE-15665 second hand.

Harwoods Info:
Harwood's of Richmond Ltd
12-14-16-18 Kew Foot Road
Richmond
Surrey

I paid 230 UK pounds for it 22 Dec 1973. From what you have said it was originally sold at Harwood's, then I guess sold back to them (my recollection was the original owner had trouble starting it). I was told it had been sitting in Harwood's showroom for 6 months gathering dust when I bought it. I managed to tour all of British Isles plus many other runs and added about 6,000 miles in first 6 months - mostly in the summer, two up and loaded.

Bike has been registered a few times:
The bike was originally purchased and registered LMU68K in UK 7 June 1972;
Ontario - 2099 - April 75;
New Zealand - 96 CRY - 28 June 78;
South Australia - TET 322 - 25 April 1979;
Queensland - SM 454 - 4 October 1999; and
Australian Capital Territory - 55021 - 18 September 2000.

I managed to get stopped in Canada and NZ riding it on "foreign plates" by actual customs agents (not police). I got chased by the former up the 401 in a car with a rotating red light :shock: . It saved a few months registration cost for me; luckily they didn't prosecute me for being unregistered.

John

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:53 pm
by b50root
Canberra wrote:The bike was originally purchased and registered LMU68K in UK 7 June 1972;
Ontario - 2099 - April 75;
New Zealand - 96 CRY - 28 June 78;
South Australia - TET 322 - 25 April 1979;
Queensland - SM 454 - 4 October 1999; and
Australian Capital Territory - 55021 - 18 September 2000.
Hope you don´t mind me adding that information in your records.

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:38 am
by xto
How do I find out to whom my bike was originally sold and from what dealer?

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:02 am
by Richard Hunt
A while back the Science Museum (in London) gave British motorcycle manufacturing paper info/records to relevant bike clubs. I think the UK BSAOC might have the info on what BSAs were supplied to what dealers/countries on what dates. I think Brian Pollitt (apologies if not spelt right) is the person there who deals with queries on dating etc :?:

The V.M.C.C. (Vintage Motorcycle Club) might also have all this info :?:

Once Rickard has finished his database (like painting the Fourth Rail Bridge in Scotland I suspect - never ending :!: ) I take my hat off to you for this Rickard :thumb. We will be able to see it here :thumb

Regards
Rich

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:20 pm
by minetymenace
Richard Hunt wrote:(like painting the Fourth Rail Bridge in Scotland I suspect - never ending :!: )


Off topic I know, but the Forth Bridge has now been painted with an epoxy paint that should last for 20 years. I hope the info on this forum will last a lot longer &lt;069

(In the US they say painting the Golden Gate, maybe they would like to buy some epoxy paint :grin: )

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:52 pm
by b50root
Richard Hunt wrote:A while back the Science Museum (in London) gave British motorcycle manufacturing paper info/records to relevant bike clubs. I think the UK BSAOC might have the info on what BSAs were supplied to what dealers/countries on what dates.


Hi Rich. I don´t think BSAOC have more info than there is in the owners database ( I think they have less :ban ). In the despatch records you can see where the bike was delivered ( Dealer ) apart from USA where you only have USA East or USA West in the records. What we should need was the records from USA East and West to see the dealers in USA .

Name of the Buyer of the bike is probably in the shops records.

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:46 pm
by Richard Hunt
Rickard

I am sure you are right. If you already have access to the dispatch records, I think that is all the info the Science Museum had to hand to the relevant clubs.

Do we know if anyone has sight of any records USA East or USA West might have kept, or anywhere else in the world that BSA exported to.

I would be amaised if any or many shop records still exist as to who bikes were sold to, but you never know.........

Regards
Rich

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:48 am
by Brad Jones
Hi Rickard

just come across one of the UK mystery dealers addresses stamped on the front of a '71 brochure!

Arthur Wheeler
45-47-51, Waterloo Road
Epsom
Surrey

Brad

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:50 am
by b50root
Thanks Brad. That was a great help.

Cheers Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:04 am
by SteveS
Brad

Thanks from me as well - as my bike was originally supplied by Arthur's shop.

Arthur was a very interesting man by all accounts - see following link to his obituary http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1309114/Arthur-Wheeler.html

Regards Steve

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:16 am
by b50root
Thanks Steve. Uppdated with a link in the Owners. :thumb
Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:26 am
by aminto
Rickard,
May I add a little history on my bikes?
B25SS - first sold by 'John T's Cycles' of Burlington, Wisconsin to Rudolf Wagner (now deceased) - last registered 1978 in WI (Plate # 16482) - sat in grain shed until 2008 when I purchased from the estate - re-registered in Illinois (Plate # CA 653) - shipped to Perth WA in 2009 - re-registered in WA (Plate # 1EI 234) - importation and going "over the pits" are not to be taken lightly - now living happily.....
B50SS - last registered 1975 in Minnesota (Plate # 88111) - then unregistered (offroad bike?) until I purchased in 2007 - re-registered in Illinois (Plate # BU 2439) - shipped to Perth WA in 2009 - in the process of re-registering in WA - now living happily - well it will be when the rockerbox oil leak is resealed.....
By the way should anyone be shipping bikes to Australia I have all sorts of information for them...
Best regards, and thank you for all your efforts managing this splendid website, Andrew

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:32 pm
by Brad Jones
Hi Rickard

Another one on the list has popped up (this time in the 1973 BSA T65 parts manual !)

David Paul Motorcycles
Central Garage
Blackwater
Truro, Cornwall, UK.

Brad

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:13 pm
by b50root
Thanks Brad. :thumb

Cheers Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:29 pm
by b50root
This is what I´m working on now for the Owners database.
google maps.JPG


So registry your bikes and you will be added to the map ( I hope )
http://b50.org/osod.htm

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:20 pm
by Ian Hingley
Hey Rickard

Never knew you could see Scotland from your house!

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:22 am
by b50root
Not that far away :shock:

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:48 pm
by b50root
Now the database is connected with a Google maps. So now you can see if there are some bikes nearby.

Go to the database http://b50.org/osod.htm and click on location. enjoy.

Rickard

Re: B50 registry

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:16 pm
by 2manyrides
It might be too hard to put the pointers spot on.
As I look at my bikes (some are currently just frames) I see that they all dwell hundreds of miles from each other! :uhu

Still, the flag associated with each has the proper town.
Very nice work Rickard!
I just wont be completely relying on the google map to find other members while I'm riding out of town!
Ha, Ha...

And I'd have to think that my bikes would pay less storage fees if only they were all in one location. (tounge in cheek)
My google map, zoomed in, shows bikes in placerville, elk grove, grass valley, ect.
:werd But hey, at least they're all in central valley California. :ban