B50 registry

Post by **b50root** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:27 pm

Im working on a update on the owners database ( B50 registry ) . http://b50.org/osod.htm

Those posts that are wrong or not complete will be deleted.

If you want to change anything mail me now.

A little surprice will come when I´m done with it

.

If you want to join the registry, now it´s the time.

Rickard

Ian Hingley · Post by **Ian Hingley** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:39 pm

No room for we humble pre-oif riders then.

Sigh!

a-son · Post by **a-son** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:10 pm

I caused you some more job. I managed to forget to fill in the frame number.

It is a B50T with matching numbers.

Christer Andersson

Post by **b50root** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:14 pm

a-son wrote:I caused you some more job. I managed to forget to fill in the frame number. It is a B50T with matching numbers.

Christer Andersson

Done

Rickard

Post by **b50root** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:16 pm

Ian Hingley wrote:No room for we humble pre-oif riders then.

Sigh!

MMMMM Maybe later.

Rickard

a-son · Post by **a-son** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:17 pm

Pretty quick!

Post by **b50root** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:07 am

a-son wrote:Pretty quick!

HA HA 4 minutes

Rickard

steve m · Post by **steve m** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:55 am

great to see the registry up and running again.
really good that people are understanding just what an excellent resource it is.
example: owned a B50 30 years ago, rueing the day i sold it ever since. wow, there's a b50 web site. it's got a registry, i'll check that out. wow, that's the bike i used to own. wow, how the 'ek did it get there

. not mine, you understand. i could never sell a B50.

steve

Anders Palm · Post by **Anders Palm** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:10 pm

Hi Richard.
I have sold one of my B50 T,B50T GE 14219 ,but I have a B25 T ,NEO 1400B25T,matching numbers,that I not have been able to put in the register,can you help me with that ?
Best regards Anders Palm.

Post by **b50root** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:18 pm

2 More day until we reveal the new owners database.

Rickard

Post by **b50root** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:44 pm

The new owners database is open. http://b50.org/osod.htm

This is a still ongoing work. Hope you Enjoy this.

Thanks to all my friends who made this possible.

Rickard

Richard Hunt · Post by **Richard Hunt** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:03 pm

Hi Rickard

Nice one

I hope everyone appreciates all the effort and time you put in on this forum - I certainally do

Rich

2manyrides · Post by **2manyrides** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:02 pm

Thanks!

the registry looks good.
My main machine has the most info out of my lot. All 6 of mine are grouped together.
I take it this was very time consuming and indeed there must be some grey areas.
Or lack of data on some bikes.

One thought;
How can folks use that data base to search, compare, cross reference their bikes.
Or even quickly find a specific machine?

2many

Post by **b50root** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:17 pm

2manyrides wrote:there must be some grey areas.
Or lack of data on some bikes.

Yes my own bike with number HE1235, the despatch paper says:

it´s a KG code and delivered to BSA Baltimore

2manyrides wrote:One thought;
How can folks use that data base to search, compare, cross reference their bikes.
Or even quickly find a specific machine?

If you know the number:

Code: Select all

ctrl f

on the page
What do you want to compare?? I can make some other pages where you sort them in an other way.

Rickard

2manyrides · Post by **2manyrides** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:44 pm

Rickard...
What do I want to compare?
....er...I dont know!

Kind of shows my computer literacy, or lack of.
Fill me in...B50 registry for dummies.

Where can I enter a vin number at and come up with a particular bike.
Compare vin numbers VS date of production, destinations and the like I guess.

I figure I'm missing something...
I click on the registry, the page comes up, I have to scroll down while carefuly watching the data to find a particular bike.
Appears to be one long page.
I must be missing something.

2many

a-son · Post by **a-son** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:04 am

Nice work Rickard!
Now I know the exact day my bike was built, and who ordered it. I doubt I could get that info anywhere else.

Thanks!

2many, you are thinking of a searchable database, this is more like a page with all data at once. You can use the search function in your browser, like Rickard said often ctrl-F, and enter either frame or engine number. You could also search for a specific year. Remember, this is only information about bikes entered by their owners to the database. Me, I searched for Fleron, a Swedish agency for BSA at the time.

Christer

Ian Hingley · Post by **Ian Hingley** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:15 am

Hi 2MR

You're right, it is all on one page. But as Rickard says this makes text searches very simple. Just hit Ctrl-F (control key and f key at same time, type in your search string and hit enter. It will find the text. Hit enter again and it will go to the next occurrence and so on. So if you want to find all the 'KG' bikes, it will find them one after another. If you know say an engine number, enter it or part of it. Typing AH3108 end Enter, will take you straight to a certain Swiss gent's bike.

If you want to more specific searches such as list all 1971 bikes, now in the UK but originally shipped to the States, that's a bit more complicated!

(As an aside, Ctrl-F is standard Windows functionality and so will work on all your software packages, browser, word processor, spreadsheet, email, financials, etc. I find it much quicker than moving my mouse up to the Edit menu and clicking on Search)

2manyrides · Post by **2manyrides** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:33 am

Ian and Christer thanks!
That explains a lot.
Self taught, never touched a key till bout 10 years ago.
Something new everyday.

Rode today on the MX and this is the first day to wear my warmest set of gloves. (Ahhhh!)

The day before, my fingers got numb.

Post by **b50root** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:48 pm

We need some addresses to some BSA dealers. Maybe someone who could help??

Harwoods – Surrey Done
Comerfords – London Done
Clifford – Nottingham
Two, Three, Four Motorcycles – Berkshire
David Paul Motorcycles Done
P Mitchell – Australia
P. Reed – Harrogate
A. Wheeler Done

Please help so we can complete those registry we have

Rickard

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:56 pm

Hi

Found Comerfords in the back of the B25 OIF Parts Book:

Comerfords Ltd
Portsmouth Road
Thames Ditton
Surrey
KT7 O_ _ - sorry unable to find the rest of the post code

Regards Steve

Post by **b50root** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:12 pm

Thanks Steve. 7 more to go.

Rickard

Canberra · Post by **Canberra** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:56 am

I'll let you add a bit more Rickard to mine - I looked at my receipt for when I purchased my B50SS-JE-15665 second hand.

Harwoods Info:
Harwood's of Richmond Ltd
12-14-16-18 Kew Foot Road
Richmond
Surrey

I paid 230 UK pounds for it 22 Dec 1973. From what you have said it was originally sold at Harwood's, then I guess sold back to them (my recollection was the original owner had trouble starting it). I was told it had been sitting in Harwood's showroom for 6 months gathering dust when I bought it. I managed to tour all of British Isles plus many other runs and added about 6,000 miles in first 6 months - mostly in the summer, two up and loaded.

Bike has been registered a few times:
The bike was originally purchased and registered LMU68K in UK 7 June 1972;
Ontario - 2099 - April 75;
New Zealand - 96 CRY - 28 June 78;
South Australia - TET 322 - 25 April 1979;
Queensland - SM 454 - 4 October 1999; and
Australian Capital Territory - 55021 - 18 September 2000.

I managed to get stopped in Canada and NZ riding it on "foreign plates" by actual customs agents (not police). I got chased by the former up the 401 in a car with a rotating red light

. It saved a few months registration cost for me; luckily they didn't prosecute me for being unregistered.

John

Post by **b50root** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:53 pm

Canberra wrote: The bike was originally purchased and registered LMU68K in UK 7 June 1972;
Ontario - 2099 - April 75;
New Zealand - 96 CRY - 28 June 78;
South Australia - TET 322 - 25 April 1979;
Queensland - SM 454 - 4 October 1999; and
Australian Capital Territory - 55021 - 18 September 2000.

Hope you don´t mind me adding that information in your records.

Rickard

xto · Post by **xto** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:38 am

How do I find out to whom my bike was originally sold and from what dealer?

Richard Hunt · Post by **Richard Hunt** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:02 am

A while back the Science Museum (in London) gave British motorcycle manufacturing paper info/records to relevant bike clubs. I think the UK BSAOC might have the info on what BSAs were supplied to what dealers/countries on what dates. I think Brian Pollitt (apologies if not spelt right) is the person there who deals with queries on dating etc

The V.M.C.C. (Vintage Motorcycle Club) might also have all this info

Once Rickard has finished his database (like painting the Fourth Rail Bridge in Scotland I suspect - never ending

) I take my hat off to you for this Rickard

. We will be able to see it here

Regards
Rich

Post by **minetymenace** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:20 pm

Richard Hunt wrote:(like painting the Fourth Rail Bridge in Scotland I suspect - never ending )

Off topic I know, but the Forth Bridge has now been painted with an epoxy paint that should last for 20 years. I hope the info on this forum will last a lot longer

(In the US they say painting the Golden Gate, maybe they would like to buy some epoxy paint

)

Post by **b50root** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:52 pm

Richard Hunt wrote:A while back the Science Museum (in London) gave British motorcycle manufacturing paper info/records to relevant bike clubs. I think the UK BSAOC might have the info on what BSAs were supplied to what dealers/countries on what dates.

Hi Rich. I don´t think BSAOC have more info than there is in the owners database ( I think they have less

). In the despatch records you can see where the bike was delivered ( Dealer ) apart from USA where you only have USA East or USA West in the records. What we should need was the records from USA East and West to see the dealers in USA .

Name of the Buyer of the bike is probably in the shops records.

Rickard

Richard Hunt · Post by **Richard Hunt** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:46 pm

Rickard

I am sure you are right. If you already have access to the dispatch records, I think that is all the info the Science Museum had to hand to the relevant clubs.

Do we know if anyone has sight of any records USA East or USA West might have kept, or anywhere else in the world that BSA exported to.

I would be amaised if any or many shop records still exist as to who bikes were sold to, but you never know.........

Regards
Rich

Brad Jones · Post by **Brad Jones** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:48 am

Hi Rickard

just come across one of the UK mystery dealers addresses stamped on the front of a '71 brochure!

Arthur Wheeler
45-47-51, Waterloo Road
Epsom
Surrey

Brad

Post by **b50root** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:50 am

Thanks Brad. That was a great help.

Cheers Rickard

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:04 am

Brad

Thanks from me as well - as my bike was originally supplied by Arthur's shop.

Arthur was a very interesting man by all accounts - see following link to his obituary http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... eeler.html

Regards Steve

Post by **b50root** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:16 am

Thanks Steve. Uppdated with a link in the Owners.

Rickard

aminto · Post by **aminto** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:26 am

Rickard,
May I add a little history on my bikes?
B25SS - first sold by 'John T's Cycles' of Burlington, Wisconsin to Rudolf Wagner (now deceased) - last registered 1978 in WI (Plate # 16482) - sat in grain shed until 2008 when I purchased from the estate - re-registered in Illinois (Plate # CA 653) - shipped to Perth WA in 2009 - re-registered in WA (Plate # 1EI 234) - importation and going "over the pits" are not to be taken lightly - now living happily.....
B50SS - last registered 1975 in Minnesota (Plate # 88111) - then unregistered (offroad bike?) until I purchased in 2007 - re-registered in Illinois (Plate # BU 2439) - shipped to Perth WA in 2009 - in the process of re-registering in WA - now living happily - well it will be when the rockerbox oil leak is resealed.....
By the way should anyone be shipping bikes to Australia I have all sorts of information for them...
Best regards, and thank you for all your efforts managing this splendid website, Andrew

Brad Jones · Post by **Brad Jones** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:32 pm

Hi Rickard

Another one on the list has popped up (this time in the 1973 BSA T65 parts manual !)

David Paul Motorcycles
Central Garage
Blackwater
Truro, Cornwall, UK.

Brad

Post by **b50root** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:13 pm

Thanks Brad.

Cheers Rickard

Post by **b50root** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:29 pm

This is what I´m working on now for the Owners database.

So registry your bikes and you will be added to the map ( I hope )
http://b50.org/osod.htm

Rickard

Ian Hingley · Post by **Ian Hingley** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:20 pm

Hey Rickard

Never knew you could see Scotland from your house!

Post by **b50root** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:22 am

Not that far away

Rickard

Post by **b50root** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:48 pm

Now the database is connected with a Google maps. So now you can see if there are some bikes nearby.

Go to the database http://b50.org/osod.htm and click on location. enjoy.

Rickard

2manyrides · Post by **2manyrides** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:16 pm

It might be too hard to put the pointers spot on.
As I look at my bikes (some are currently just frames) I see that they all dwell hundreds of miles from each other!

Still, the flag associated with each has the proper town.
Very nice work Rickard!
I just wont be completely relying on the google map to find other members while I'm riding out of town!
Ha, Ha...

And I'd have to think that my bikes would pay less storage fees if only they were all in one location. (tounge in cheek)
My google map, zoomed in, shows bikes in placerville, elk grove, grass valley, ect.

But hey, at least they're all in central valley California.