Different gas cap in 1974?

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Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:43 pm

I recently swapped for a 1974 Triumph TR5T. I noticed a few difference from my 1973 TR5T. The gas cap is different from the 1973, it sits close to the top of the tank(<1/4") and the tab to open it is flat steel, the rest of it looks like the standard Monza gas cap. The 1973 is the same as all of the ones on my 1971 B25's and T25T 250s, they sit about 1/2" above the tank. i am in need of the rubber seal and It looks like the earlier ones will sill fit.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by JB » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:14 pm

My understanding was that the early cap is known as 2" Monza and the later one was a 2 1/2" Monza and that the sealing washer is different between the two versions.

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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:43 pm

The outer cover is bigger on the 1974 and oddly enough, the gas tank opening is smaller. The rubber gasket is the same size on both About 2 1/8". The 1974 has Ceandess stamped on it and it is riveted in place. The 1973 and the 1971 all just have Made in England and they are held on with stud and nut.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Barry Creary » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:18 pm

I bought a seal for my monza cap from a guy I found on this forum I think he calls his company Bithish gaskets.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:10 am

Was it for the thick or the thin type gasket. The 1974's gasket looks to be twice as thick as the 1973 and 1971 ones. The 1974 is a Ceandess gas cap also.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Barry Creary » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:08 am

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This is my cap and did buy some petrol resistance rubber and cut a seal but it just wrinkles up and was useless this one from from the guy could have been Brith gaskets is still going 2 years later might be worth looking for him in the search thingy he also supplies gasket sets which are good quality.

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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Leif » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:16 am

441Steve... www.britgaskets.com

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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by minetymenace » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:16 am

Britgaskets make some really good stuff. Check out their primary drive gaskets.

Their website is under construction, today (08OCT19) this link may be better for BSA stuff, and this one for their gasket home page. These links could change once the site is sorted, or it maybe that the standard link works on normal browsers!

Monza cap gaskets can be found on this page.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:43 pm

Yes , I have purchased BSA and Triumph gaskets from him in the past. Excellent quality. The photos that you post are the same gas cap that are on my 1973 TR5T and all of the 1971 250s. The 1974 TR5T withe the Ceandess bigger gas cap uses a thicker gasket. I have order a Ceandess rebuild kit with a new gasket holder and I will post when it comes in. I will also order some of his gaskets and put them on the shelf for future use.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by skippy » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:19 pm

minetymenace wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:16 am
Britgaskets make some really good stuff. Check out their primary drive gaskets.

Their website is under construction, today (08OCT19) this link may be better for BSA stuff, and this one for their gasket home page. These links could change once the site is sorted, or it maybe that the standard link works on normal browsers!

Monza cap gaskets can be found on this page.
Now you have done it. I have spent my money on a primary gasket. I was using a bit of silicon to patch up a tear in the old one I have and hoping that it would still hold together one more time.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by minetymenace » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:57 am

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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:23 pm

I just received the "Ceandess" rebuild kit. It is too big for the BSA Style Monza cap. It will fit the Norton flip up cap, but not the BSA. The BSA singles use a smaller cap and gasket.
https://www.classicbritishspares.com/pr ... bd91&_ss=r
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:13 pm

I just remembered that the Monza gas caps also came a bigger size, 2 1/2". I had one on B40 competition bike with the alloy gas tank, The early B44 also had the "large" gas cap. I think when the B44 changed to the square head that they reduced the gas cap to the smaller one, the one they used up until late 1973/early1974.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:20 pm

I just ordered the two different sizes listed for the B44 from BritGaskets.com. I will post when they come in if the fit the late 1974 tank.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:13 pm

Has anyone heard from Steve at Britgaskets.com. I ordered both his large and small BSA sets on the 11th, I got a PayPal email receipt showing he was paid same day, then nothing. I Emailed him at orders@britgaskets.com, to see if the have been shipped a couple of days ago and no reply. I emailed him again this morning at STEVE@BRITGASKETS.COM, and still no response. Is he still in business? I have bought from him in the past and he always shipped right away.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by skippy » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:19 pm

I got a pay pal refund for the gasket i ordered and no other correspondence.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:30 pm

I will give him until Friday and then I will be filling for a refund, thanks for the info. Too bad , he was a good supplier.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:48 am

No response as of tonight, so I filed for a refund with PayPal and ordered some more gaskets from Peter at bsaunitsingles.com. I noticed that Steve had this in his web site;
"WELCOME TO THE NEW BRITGASKETS.COM SITE! PLEASE HOLD ORDERS TILL JULY 25TH, UPDATING SITE." but that date has come and gone months ago. I also noticed that his site is not working like it used to, from the web you can find his Triumph gasket and AMAL gasket sections, but not from his home page. Too bad, he makes great gaskets! I would not try to order anything from him until he gets this worked out.
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Re: Different gas cap in 1974?

Post by Jeff K » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:45 am

Steve just got back to me and he is sending out the gaskets. So he still is alive. LOL
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