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Post by b50root » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:13 pm

Some old videos of Mike Gilkey racing Stans BSA B50.

From 1999. Look at the outstanding performance of Mike and Stans bike.

Impressive :shock:

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This is the guy you should look at.

http://www.b50.org/photos/uploaded/gilkey1.wmv 7 MB

Mike is second from right in the start.


http://www.b50.org/photos/uploaded/gilkey.wmv 4 MB

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Post by HPbyStan » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:18 am

thanks Rickard, I'd forgotten about that video. Gosh, the announcing was terrible on that thing..

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Post by b50root » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:12 am

But the race was good.


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Post by JonH » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:28 pm

Wire to wire and never threatened. Nice. That kind of run can be pretty discouraging to everyone else.

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Post by b50root » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:03 am

Yesterday I got a mail as a result of these videos.
As Race Director in the first year of F-USA flattrack series, we did a race at Fort Worth-Dallas Texas Staduim. In the top class Gilkey rode this bike (400cc singles) He got 3rd in the 25 lap main event(podium)

He also got protested as to the size of his engine. As I heard people saying they had B-50"s but they never ran like that.Well he was legal, as we tore the top end of the motor the head gasket was about 1 lap from going away.

He was legal all around, and the best thing of all is that all the crew was dressed in red BSA race shirts, and were they a happy bunch. I also might add that I have never seen a more beautifull built bike(old bike) than this one.

Bob Hill, Madera, Ca
The year was 2000. Mike Kidds (Clear Channel) F-USA Dirt Track Series. They all had red BSA shirts and were they happy.

A noted tuner Dale Lineweaver whose rider won the F-USA title that year helped in the tear down and his measurements were the same as ours. Had to make sure.

I think he was protested by Joe Snyder whose daughter was 4th on a Rotax. She later rode for factory Harley-Davidson.

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Post by HPbyStan » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:07 pm

Ed Valiket was with Gilkey and the BSA at the Texas race. I had already agreed to help Jim Sumner at an AMA race in another city on that date. Also, that wasn't my BSA. In 2000 we built Gilkey a brand new bike and mine went back in the house. After the race at Texas Motor Speedway the head gasket was the least of the B50s woes. The electronic ign that Mike insisted on running probably cost him at least 3 wins and Texas was one of them. When it would get hot it would shoot the timing ahead and in Texas the engine was trying to tie up for several laps before the end of the race. The top ring gap went away from the heat and was binding in the cylinder so hard that it broke the top ring land out of the piston as well as the fire ring at the top of the cylinder liner. The ring its self was in 1/4 inch chunks stuck all over the combustion chamber. The really amazing part to me was, at the rpm even a very sick B50 is turning ( something over 7000 I'd guess) the exhaust valve can't be open for a very long period of time yet all the broken parts that weren't lodged in the head made it out the exhaust without any damage to the valve seat area or the valve seat its self. In 2001 we built a 585cc engine to run Daytona in the AMA 600 class and the ign failed in practice and while I was switching the 305 H*nda based point ign from my engine to Mikes, he went out on a C&J framed Rotax, crashed , broke his collar bone and ended his racing days. Texas Motor Speedway was the first time a BSA rider had been on the box at a modern half mile national event in this country in over a quarter century.... Stan Millard

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Post by HPbyStan » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:13 am

This may be another stupid question BUT, when ya don't know,,,,,,,,Do videos degrade over time even on the www? I sent this link to a friend and checked to make sure it got sent and I was surprised at how bad the video was. I remembered the announcer being really bad but not the video so much. I now have a larger screen moniter than the last time I watched it so maybe that is the problem. It even seemed like the colour was bleached out of it and this new moniter has brilliant colour. Is this more proof that I'm losing whats left of my miniature mind or does this really happen?

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Post by steve m » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:49 am

stan, you sure know how to build 'em. and mike sure knows how to ride 'em. thank you so much for sharing these gems with us.

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talk about "eat my dust". how totally demoralising for the opposition

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Post by HPbyStan » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:07 am

Steve, Thank you for the kind words. When we signed up for that race, the tech man said "Sir don't you think your in the wrong class? '70s Singles is our premium class and is for MODERN vintage" I told him that it was beating the best Rotaxs in America in AMA pro races when I parked it and I didn't think it would have much trouble with TT500 Yamahas or XR500 Hondas and he goes "yeah right HaHa". Guess who was laughing at the end of the day. :lol: I still don't remember the video being this bad tho, but then I don't remember a lot these days.

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Post by b50root » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:43 am

Hi Stan. No the problem was on the converting . The original film you sent me was a vcr cassette recorded with long play ( Half the speed ) and with your american color systen ( NTSC ) I don´t have any NTSC VCR player so I had to take what I could find.

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Post by steve m » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:28 am

tech man(we call scrutineer)-wheel, wheel, frame, motor= sticker on number plate :lol: . but hey, what a good judge of character, SIR no less ;-) .
rickard, you have done well. long play= half speed = half quality. plus NTSC (we joke- Not The Same Colour) the frame rate is different. but apart from all that , it's a great record of a great achievement. i'm rapt :grin: .

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Post by britgaskets » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:22 am

I remember it! it was always a scream to hear how the B50 was doing at thrashing everything it could get it's rear tire pointed at! Not that long ago really but I won't forget hearing of Ed and Stan back then. As consistent those two gentleman as their bikes in racing.
I think that was around the time I had been getting a lot of the victim comment thing and not 1 person in last 15 years has called my bike that. Much nicer things indeed.
Great vid, I will convert and edit any old BSA VHS tapes anyone want up as a film etc. Youtube is 15 min segments now. I want to experiment with the wmv here as well this weekend.
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Post by b50root » Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:01 pm

I get goosebumps everytime I look at video 2. <049

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Post by HPbyStan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:29 pm

Mike wanted me to take at least one tooth and maybe two off the rear sprocket for more top speed as it was into "over run" shortly past the start/finish line but I told him that he was going to win anyway and I wanted to hear the engine scream especially as the "experts" claim a B50 can't. Most of the AHRMA nationals don't have a full grandstand but a show during Daytona "Bike Week" brings a big crowd and I wanted to show off. Heck, I have an ego too ! Cheers, Stan

Sorry for bumping this up guys, I thought I was replying to Rickards PM.... Stan

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Post by minetymenace » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:19 pm

Links dont seem to work any more, anyone else?

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Post by b50root » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:29 pm





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Post by minetymenace » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:49 pm

:thumb

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Post by HPbyStan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:24 pm

I posted this link to the forum at www.flattrack.com in the USA and judging buy the hits numbers here, it must be being watched.

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Post by HPbyStan » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:32 pm

Holy Smokes, 2195 visits, can that be right ?

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Post by minetymenace » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:39 pm

Yes Stan, and now you've bumped it it will probable get another thousand!!!

Mike is a nice guy and a crazy racer...don't think the northerners poisoned him did they?

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Post by HPbyStan » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:47 pm

minetymenace wrote:Yes Stan, and now you've bumped it it will probable get another thousand!!!

Mike is a nice guy and a crazy racer...don't think the northerners poisoned him did they?
naa, they just picked on the old guy and what a mess that was. :(

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Post by HPbyStan » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:49 am

Rickard, Why does it say under these videos that they aren't registered and we shouldn't send them to anyone? Does it cost money to register them? TIA, Stan
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Post by b50root » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:34 am

Still?

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Post by David S » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:26 am

WOW!!!! That was really neat!

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Post by HPbyStan » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:24 pm

I'm trying to clear out a fence line and it's winning as many as I am. Looks like this is one more thing I'm too old to do so I just came here to replay The B50 flattracker video to remind me I at least USED to be able to do stuff.

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Post by skippy » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:48 am

The older you get the more time and helpers are needed.
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Post by b50root » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:43 am

Still love to see this. <200
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Post by Ian Hingley » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:35 am

Stan

You still do stuff mortals like us can only dream of!

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Post by Barry Creary » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:19 am

Yes Ian I agree with that :thumb Stans the man :mrgreen:

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