Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

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Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by beesa71 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:10 pm

This what you have to do when nobody wants to part with sensible money for frames..... ;-)

Next is a US import MX with quite a lot of extra bracketry with some OEM brackets missing also. Would be recoverable but needs work (as they say). Should be able to PM pictures of it this week if anyone is interested. Could get it to the Stafford show in late April if that helps.

Any interest before it goes the same way as these?

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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by 2manyrides » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:45 pm

Although this is an understandable situation under some circumstances...
It's also sacraligous! It's a shame, It's like taking a perfectly good dog to be put down because you can not find a new owner for him. There's got to be a way to save these!
I myself have 4 frames stored to prevent them from joining the scrap heap. Doubt I'll ever use 3 of them but...
Can't let them go to waste.

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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by malcward » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:54 pm

Hi 2many
MX ,SS , or T and what price?

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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by 2manyrides » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:16 pm

There's a tr5mx a t and an ss
shipping to canada might pose some trouble.
I really had not thought of pricing ever but for a b50.org member I'd do something reasonable.
these are not with title, and if I was to have a favorite I wanted to keep it would be the SS.

If further interested still, I could produce a series of pictures.

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Post by malcward » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:21 pm

Hi 2many
pictures would be nice .
May be interested in the mx frame if shipping isn't horrendus.
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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by 2manyrides » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:44 pm

The TR5MX is available. I'll need a day or so to get it photographed.
Sure you know what they look like, but I have to show you the tabs that were added as mods. This bike raced in it's former glory.

The reason I say shipping is there has been a lot of discussion on this forum about that, and chopping them for shipping to fit size regulations. Once I have photos I'll pm you with them.

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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by minetymenace » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:17 pm

beesa71,are you realy saying that noone will give you more than their scrap value?

To post such a thing on this site is going to make people's blood boil....to destroy a finite resorce because its current scrap value exceeds what you can get for a complete frame in a time of recession seems a little short sighted, unless you are so skint you have no other option. The price of scrap metal will fall faster than the value of the frames will increase....but they are your frames so I guess you can do with them what you will. I had to check the date to see if we had reached the beginning of April.

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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by Bill » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:45 am

That seems a bit harsh, how much will you get for the scrap?

How about free to a good home and new owner to pay shipping.

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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by SteveS » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:54 pm

I reckon the average price on eBay for an oif frame ranges from £100 to £125 for SS and T - slightly more for B50 as opposed to B25 - slightly more still for MX frames. I can't believe they can be worth that much as scrap.

I do hope this was an April fool, I tend towards Gerry's view

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Post by vetterlatethanever » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:49 pm

Fifty Severn watchers and only 5 bids chop it up!!!!
there's nearly 50p in scrap there better lock it up in the shed! :shock: now where's that old Vincent frame must be nearly a fiver's worth of steel in that and if I fill it full of copper it will weigh more that will fool them..... ;-)
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Post by crankbuster » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:33 am

Any interest in this scrap...
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Post by vetterlatethanever » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:55 am

Wow crank your in the same league as Damien Hurst, I am positive you could get a few million for that given the correct exposure. Given a snappy tile like cow in aspic or perhaps death of an industry
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Post by malcward » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:06 pm

Hi crankbuster
It might of happened at one point to the e35 , I know the tooling and engine parts were scrapped. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by b50root » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:09 pm

Could be intresting to get the frame no, to remove them as scrap in the database.

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Post by Bill » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:00 am

I notice everyone is happy to waste more profit in consumables like hacksaw blades or cutting disks, will the scrap yard not take them complete?

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Post by ripellett » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:28 am

Why!
I used to buy write offs from insurance companies that insisted on the frames being chopped up.
Bottom frame sections can make useful engine stands. Cut up frames yield good donor parts to repair damaged frames.
Frames, especially without papers, don't sell quickly. But most British bike frames sell eventually, B25/B44/B50 usually quickly.
Scrap value of light steel is hardly a factor, or I'd be weighing in C15/B25 cranks.
Or were these photos taken near a caravan?
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Post by b50root » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:01 pm

ripellett wrote: Bottom frame sections can make useful engine stands.
:thumb

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Post by crankbuster » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:24 pm

vetterlatethanever wrote:Wow crank your in the same league as Damien Hurst, I am positive you could get a few million for that given the correct exposure. Given a snappy tile like cow in aspic or perhaps death of an industry
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Post by malcward » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:39 pm

Crankbuster

Did vetterlatethan pay up?

2many have you any photos yet? as you haven't PM'd me.

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Post by 2manyrides » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:18 pm

Hang on...
Work and rain have gotten in the way of going into the shed and diggging out the mx.
It's not going anywhere soon :lol:

Friday/ or over the weekend.

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Post by vetterlatethanever » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:54 pm

Sorry crankbuster but I just looked into importing your art and my lousy government want to charge me import duty ! I guess i will just have to admire from afar ;-)

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Post by malcward » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:43 pm

Mr vetterlatethan,
you come from Cornwall, surely you can find a way of avoiding the excise men. :lol: :lol: :lol:

2many what! rain in California! :lol: :lol:
Anytime will OK for the Pictures.

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Post by vetterlatethanever » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:58 pm

malcward wrote:Mr vetterlatethan,
you come from Cornwall, surely you can find a way of avoiding the excise men.
I only wish I could the buggers have just charged me £35 quid on a cam and oil pump I got from the states. The problem is I only live in cornwall I was born just down the road from the Bsa factory in not so sunny Birmingham lol . It really does ***me off paying import duty on parts made here and already had duty payed on them when they went to the states, Only for the exise men to want more for repatriating them when there old and worn out! :(

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Post by beat » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:54 pm

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post by vetterlatethanever » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:05 am

some ones now offering ready made scrap a http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BSA-A7-A10-B3 ... _808wt_932 bold new move in the market . plus you will save $ £ in disc blades!

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Post by Ian Hingley » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:58 am

Fifty quid start price? Fifty quid?? :laugh :laugh

If that sells, maybe my years worth of hoarded junk is worth more than I thought ...

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Post by Chris Pellett » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:06 pm

I'm clearing out one of Roys sheds while he is in hospital:
C15, B25, TR25W and OIF frames, some with log books, all bought legally.
PM me with wants, offers or more details.

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Post by Ian Hingley » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:29 pm

Chris Pellett wrote:I'm clearing out one of Roys sheds while he is in hospital:
Does he know?? :smile:

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Post by Chris Pellett » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:09 pm

Does he know??
He does now:
C15G with buff log book
C15F with V5 log book
C15 no log book
TR25W no log book, but could apply for one
B25T with V5C log book on SORN


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Post by besaboy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:03 pm

chris, please see PM sent re B25T

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Post by Chris Pellett » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:50 pm

1966 C15F 49808 c/w swing arm and shocks No docs except purchase receipt £40
1967 C15G151 c/w swing arm some lugs broken off, old log book and Reg no., not on DVLA computer £20
1967 C15G2040 c/w swingarm, no docs except purchase receipt £40
1969 TR25W HC13834 bare frame no docs except purchase receipt £50
1971 B25T CEO8608 some repaired brackets current V5C on SORN £100

other parts may be available to make collecting worthwhile, or these into project bikes.

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Post by besaboy » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:09 pm

Chris, did the man turn up for the B25T frame ?

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Post by Chris Pellett » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:10 pm

Rumour has it that he is going to jump the Grand Canyon on it!!!
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthrea ... 90&gonew=1

Still have the others:
C15 frames make good engine stands.

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Post by malcward » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:51 pm

Thought you might like this one crankbuster,
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Re: Frames - now the the UK price of scrap has risen again

Post by Jeff K » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:13 pm

This is a sad but true fact. I have seen where people will chop up good bikes to sell the parts on Ebay. At the end of the day, it is normal for the frame to be left over. Some States like where I live here in Michigan make it very difficult if you do not have a title for the bike/frame. I myself am now starting to get caught up and plan on thinning out the pile and unfortunately may wind up scrapping a few frames my self. This is a old phot and the pile is much larger now.
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