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B25R ?

Post by philliplye » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:18 pm

On the list of B25s i sa B25R. I don't know this model. Can someone enlighten me? Phil

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Re: B25R ?

Post by minetymenace » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:23 pm

Oh the wonders of the internet! What list of B25s?

18 days ago I discovered that the B25R was an export model shipped to a dealer in the Caribbean. It is very rare. One of its main design features was a horizontally split crank case with ready moulded bosses which looked like mountings for a yet to be designed electric start, (OK two of its main design features). An exhaustive search of files retrieved from Umberslade Hall indicate collaboration with a far eastern motorcycle company with a view to lowering the cost of the current machines. A small number of prototypes were designed and built in the UK and records show they were shipped to Black Beard Motorcycles in Trinidad.

The far eastern company then tried to flood the market with a motorcycle who's design was pirated from BSA. An international law suits followed which bankrupted BSA and they went out of business.

The rest is history, but if you get offered a B25R, especially the "Captain" model (B25 Aaaaarh!), snap it up, because 50 years after the demise of BSA, frustrated motorcyclists are going mad in solitary isolation due to Covid19.

I have also seen a list containing B25GS......Anyone want to have a go with that?

Not really "Parts For Sale" so will probably move this topic.......any suggestions where it should go?
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Re: B25R ?

Post by Jeff K » Fri May 08, 2020 4:36 pm

Any photos?
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Re: B25R ?

Post by madsundaysurvivor » Sat May 09, 2020 7:15 pm

minetymenace wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:23 pm
One of its main design features was a horizontally split crank case with ready moulded bosses which looked like mountings for a yet to be designed electric start
Very interesting, this could be the solution for wet crankcases of momus
Photos please

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Re: B25R ?

Post by minetymenace » Sat May 09, 2020 8:14 pm

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minetymenace wrote:18 days ago I discovered that the B25R
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Re: B25R ?

Post by beesa71 » Mon May 11, 2020 8:36 pm

And I have decent enough evidence of a B25V in the same context as A75V (not sure whether other code letters were included in that one). Vertically split castings too if I remember.

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Post by minetymenace » Mon May 11, 2020 11:02 pm

How about X25 designed by Craig's son?
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Re: B25R ?

Post by philliplye » Mon May 18, 2020 9:21 am

Has anyone who responded to this actually searched for B25R? I did, having seen a reference to such a model, and that is why I asked the question. Or I am I missing the point of a joke?

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Re: B25R ?

Post by SteveS » Mon May 18, 2020 11:52 am

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Hi Phil

There appear to be a few references to B25R on the internet linked to products to suit that model. I have to admit I am not aware of the model.

However I have checked Rupert Ratio's book, Unit Single Manual, Volume 3, Lesser known Models.

On page 62, Chapter 11, Special Order Models, the B25R is listed as:
Proposed late'70 alongside the subsequently produced T and SS models
So we can maybe assume it was an oil in frame model, but unclear what the specification was or what the 'R' stood for

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Just checked Brad Jones book 'The Incomplete Guide'.
Chapter 20. Point 24. Brad notes as follows: Handbooks, part no. 00-4183. H/General Export bikes appear with an 'R' suffix, rather than 'SS' and have the 3 gallon fuel tank listed as standard. No carburation specifications whatever are listed.
The 'R' looks like a short lived reference and does not appear again in any other BSA publications (as far as I can see)
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Re: B25R ?

Post by minetymenace » Mon May 18, 2020 12:16 pm

Yes I searched before replying with a flippant comment. On the internet you will find everything, sometimes even rubbish.

Thank you SteveS for finding and quoting a source (I'll check my RR books too), but "proposed" is not the same as "produced".

If one turns up it had better have some sort of traceable providence as it is far more likely to have been hand built by John Banks' pet elves than to have come from Umberslade Hall or Armory Road. However, a photo of one in the colonies should shut me up.

While I appear cock-sure of this, I hope it will fire someone up to prove me wrong.
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Re: B25R ?

Post by philliplye » Tue May 19, 2020 12:20 pm

Thanks for the replies. The "back burner" is the place for this, I think, along with the fate of the B25MX.

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