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hi gents,
some days ago, on the way back from work, engine stopped several times.
fuel was ok, my guess was ignition.
find the cable to the points was hurt and getting in contact to the airfilter box.
replaced cable and had a lovely ride on sunday.
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real lovely...
real lovely...
get to the work day after, on the backway it stopped finaly just out of my village, no more go!

well: the rest of the Story: the Topic title says it <218 <128

will come up when have found the fault.
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You just know we will be waiting to find out what it is and where you are going to put the pedals. <1010 <216
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Fantastic environs for a ride! :thumb
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skippy wrote:where you are going to put the pedals.
Hmmm, - wheilst pushing it the way of two miles , I realy was " Idea- less " where to put the pedals..... :oops: :oops:
Jack Gifford wrote:Fantastic environs for a ride!
yeas it is !
so what abouth a other " ALP TOUR " of some forummembers next year :?: :?: :?:
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An ALP TOUR is on my 'dream' list, since I did almost no motorcycling during my European tour. I spent most of my leave time at Achensee in Tirol, Oestereich- also very picturesque countryside.
I don't know where you are in der Schweitz; what's the lake I see in the photo?
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hi jack,

the lake is Sarnersee, named by the village of Sarnen in the pre-Alps as we say.
the place I live is Gränichen, abouth 1 1/2 hour very nice ride to getting there. :mrgreen:

today I was surching the Pushbikes Fault:
cable- salad
cable- salad
lucky to have a wiring plan evan I can read it....
lucky to have a wiring plan evan I can read it....
and find some more ugly &quot; spaghettis &quot;
and find some more ugly " spaghettis "
as to see, somewhere like this the problem since to be.
this wires are Silicone coating cables, very flexible and heat resistent ( maybe a good advice for Ian Hinglay ' :oops: )
but not so resistent agayns crapping on sharp corners.... :(
so after 5 years and abouth 20 000 Kms it needs to replace some of them.- and protect and placing them a bit better. <017 <017

Well, abouth the Alp tour: I hope it makes the one ore the other a bit thinking... <201 <201

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beat wrote:crapping on sharp corners
:shock: nightmare.

Grommet strip, or some extra sleeving over the loom perhaps. a short to earth should have blown a fuse, any wires broken?
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beat wrote:... ( maybe a good advice for Ian Hinglay ' :oops: )
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beat wrote:... crapping on sharp corners....
That's the best beat-ism I've read in a while! :laugh <026

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Hmmmmm,
surched for some hours now, - stil not finding the fault.
changed plug and coil , checked HT wire and plugcap, points and lots of wires - stil no go
seams to be something interesting.

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Its not the beat electronic ignition I hope.
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beat wrote:seams to be something interesting.
:shock: oh really, something interesting......on your bike...who woulda thunk it. ;-)
good luck Beat.

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hi all,

- first: - I got it :!:

second : - what a trip :!: - it took the all day to get there. <215 <206
the sympthomes where : bike not running, - one first weack spark on the plug when kicking, - a second spark nearly not visuable, - afterwards no more spark to see.
BTW, Batteri freshly loadet, - as my engine is by- Ignition, - say Points triggeret Transystore - ore just Points Standard BSA ignition, - it did not sparking by Transystore , just as descripd above in the Standard Mode.

Question : what is this ????? :?: :?: :?: :?:

after four hour checking trough everithing and replacing nearly all relatet parts ( Plug, Cap, HT Cable, Coil, Capacitor, Points, Fuses, Cables, Connectors. ) I endet up on the IGNITION SWICH .
Switch from a Harley Davidson Aermachi I guess
Switch from a Harley Davidson Aermachi I guess
durty contactpoints, - cleaned now....
durty contactpoints, - cleaned now....
I checked it by the Ohmmeter, it was OK. - I checked it by the Voltage: 12.7 V in, - 12.3 V out.
actualy, by this Voltage droping of 0.4 V, some big Bells should have been ringing in my head, - it dit not this time. :oops: :oops:
so, after wiring up a Ignition which existing just out of Batteri, Coil, Capacitor, Points and wires - there was a Spark!

BTW, the Points , done 20 000 Km`s are loking like this: - I say, - like brand new....
Points, triggering a Transystore for Ign. Coil switching after done 5 years and 20 000 Km
Points, triggering a Transystore for Ign. Coil switching after done 5 years and 20 000 Km
now what happend was as the contacts in the Mainswich have been durty and making a surtain Resistance.
so, with enough time it was able to load the coil, but with a higher current flow in time ( more Sparks in time ) it was droping the voltage :!:

now, my selfmade Transystore Switch has NOT survived this Voltage Irregularity, - it seams to be dead.
nothing to see from the outside.
nothing to see from the outside.
no burning marks on the backside, but I guess the Transystore MJ10012 is dead
no burning marks on the backside, but I guess the Transystore MJ10012 is dead
so, next day I will check carefully this selfmade Switch and if realy not working, I will scratch the Glue ( Araldite ) out of the housing and made it new. :cry:

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i'm glad you found it relatively easily, electrical problems can be very hard to find sometimes.
i guess the heel of the points will wear out eventually, but isn't it a great idea to take the current away from them. :cool:

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Well done Beat hope you get that electronic ignition going and get out into them Alps before it gets to cold again
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yeas, the heel may, - but with a good kind of grease on the lob and a drop of oil on the felt , myne has not within this 20 000 Kms. :cool:

but it is to say, as I do check it somewhere by 2 ore 3 K Kms, lubbing it a bit and wipe the Points with a little pice of a reg to keep them clean.

not shure as I can go to the Alps once more this season, soon I will go in hollydays, and afterwards it may be to late abouth the wetter.
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Darn shame that even Hollydays can get in the way of riding a bike these days huh.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
HPbyStan wrote:Darn shame that even Hollydays can get in the way of riding a bike these days
yeas Stan, - I was not much in the saddle this year. :cry:
I wish I could push my Hollydays to a month later ore so,- but live is painfull some thime..... :(

well, at least in my head I am preparing something " extendet " to do in a year ore two ore so..... :mrgreen:

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